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Political Issues/Comments / Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
« on: December 21, 2010, 03:34:26 PM »
Any successful politician is going to be a liar to some extent, whether they are big lies or little white ones.  Sadly, this is how our political system works...or doesnt work, to be more exact.

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
« on: December 21, 2010, 03:10:12 PM »
I think Thor was being rhetorical/satirical, and he didnt really think it was from Al Gore.  Easy to mis-judge peoples' statements on the net though.  No body language or tone of voice to interpret things.

Another good propaganda tactic is if an opinion cant be defended with facts or logic, then change the subject. ;)  Anybody actually have a comment about the OP?

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: Political "Lie of the Year"
« on: December 21, 2010, 12:02:13 PM »
I noticed that article too.  It reminds me of a quote from a diabolic master of propaganda from last century: 

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie."

The national GOP seems quite adept at this tactic.  I wonder how many people might recognize this quote without looking it up?

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Current News & Events / Re: A Christmas Miracle
« on: December 16, 2010, 01:19:58 PM »
That's one precocious toddler.

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: Couldn't believe my ears
« on: December 14, 2010, 12:49:43 PM »
we need to raise taxes and spend more money so our kids can be taught about gay sex and other BS in school according to weasel

Umm...what?  This is out of left field.  I guess we see what's on your mind.  Well, to each their own proclivities...doesnt matter to me.  Ed, I think you are being a ridiculous buffoon, and now apparently a homophobe as well.  Yes, I want taxes so people can have a decent public education.  I'm sorry if you didnt benefit from one, and therefore think nobody else needs it either.  There are many people on these forums whose thoughts and ideas deserve attention and interest, so I will not waste any more time with you.

As to Josh's comment about sex education in school.  I think I had it in maybe 5th grade?  It was pretty basic and probably helped some kids, though I know that today, kids are starting much much earlier with that sort of activity.  Very different from my time growing up in the 70s & 80s.  I'm ok with schools teaching it, but parents need to have the right to opt-out their kids if they dont want them learning that in school, for whatever reason.

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General Discussion / Re: Land Trust?
« on: December 08, 2010, 04:54:57 PM »
weasel im just trying to figure out your angle on this either you work for the school or someone you live with does or you have more money than GOD

Nope, nope, and nope. ;)  Apparently anyone with a different opinion than you must have an "angle".   That's an interesting thought process...and a bit revealing about yourself.  Last comment from me to you Rod.  I agree to disagree.

To everyone else:  So why the great difference in housing prices across the lake?  Josh mentioned people being paid to not develop their land, and out of staters driving up prices (with McMansions probably) so that is a couple things, but I dont think those could be the sole reasons.  Anyone have other ideas?  Taxes are apparently higher in NY, so that doesnt sound like its part of it.   I always wondered why this was the case.

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General Discussion / Re: Land Trust?
« on: December 08, 2010, 12:47:59 PM »
weasel no im not fine with it ,are you originally from here weasel ? your kin ,how many generations? just wondering cause not that many years ago things were under control 80`s and things were affordable ,im just waiting for the older people to start getting kicked out of thier homes because they cant afford it anymore then you might see someone want to do something about it

Hehe. ;)  My prediction:  Next thing, we'll hear that anyone who hasnt been here for 10 generations are "flat-landers".  This isnt even a reasonable discussion (or much of a discussion at all) anymore, it's just getting silly.   It doesnt seem that you have anything more to add that's informative or thoughtful.  So, looks like it's about done for me.

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General Discussion / Re: Land Trust?
« on: December 04, 2010, 11:26:42 AM »
I only make about half of that Rod.  Never had much money, probably never will.  But a decent education is one of the most important things for people to have access to, so I'm fine with being taxed for it.  What about you?

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General Discussion / Re: Land Trust?
« on: December 03, 2010, 04:53:13 PM »
We own.  I am happy to have my tax dollars go to education. 

You should come up with a better argument, or you just look like a Scrooge. ;)

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Sounds fair to me, hehe. ;)  I think he should be kicked out of Congress.

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General Discussion / Re: Land Trust?
« on: November 24, 2010, 09:41:01 AM »
well mary i feel that if school spending wasnt so out of control we wouldnt need programs like this

That's the last thing that needs to be cut, lest future generations all become "dead form the neck up". ;)

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: Douglas - one of fifty Herbert Hoovers?
« on: November 22, 2010, 05:02:57 PM »
Here's an interesting article on the subject of news vs entertainment.  And remember, this is an opinion piece, not a new article.  People seem to get these things confused so easily.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/12/AR2010111202857.html

Chris my use of the "death-panel" term to describe health-care providers was intended to be satirical, to demonstrate that what mirjo aptly called "pundits shouting out hyperbolic things like "death panels"...a better  idea would be to offer real solutions,"  really doesnt add anything to the conversation.  All it does is evoke reactionary anger, and not carefully considered or logical opinions, which could lead to solutions.  It seems my writing was probably too opaque.  I could probably write convincing arguments for many things to be deemed "death-panels" but that wouldnt make it true.  One thing about what I wrote that holds a kernel of truth for me is that the health-care companies do not have your best interests at heart.  Think about it this way:  Medicare denies so many claims because it cant afford to cover so many things.  Health-care companies deny so many claims because they dont want their profits to get smaller.  They could afford much more, and still make huge profits, just not quite so monumentally huge as before.  To say that there is moral equivalency with these two things is ridiculous.  If people cant see the difference, some moral compasses need some serious re-tuning.   It's my opinion that health-care companies often pursue policies that are immoral, in pursuit of dollars.

Further, following a logical progression, if you are pissed-off about Medicare denying people's claims, then you must want Medicare to cover more things.  The best solution would be to seriously increase spending for Medicare.  Problem solved!   I'm sure thats what everyone wants, right?

To me, the problem is not the size of government, but the efficiency and effectiveness of it.  It's not the size, but how you use it, as the saying goes. ;)

Mirjo, you said some things that do provoke some interesting thoughts.  Definitely well-said.

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: election rehash........
« on: November 19, 2010, 10:03:36 AM »
Oh, duh...I should have picked up on that. ;)  I use the phone so rarely I didnt think of it.

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: Douglas - one of fifty Herbert Hoovers?
« on: November 19, 2010, 10:02:37 AM »
The FACT is a journalist with the New York Times is calling for Death Panels on ABC.

The FACT is that this same journalist blasted Palin and others for suggesting such a ludicrous idea.

The FACT is that the New York Times has more readers AND

ABC has more viewers than politifact.

Chris, remember that  as you said, that Krugman is an opinion columnist.  He has no policy-making power, nor is he even a real reporter.  He is just another one of the talking head partisans that tries to pass off opinion as actual journalism.  I dont care if he blasted Palin or whoever else.  Nowadays, most people dont seem to look for facts, but instead look for opinions that already confirm what they think or believe.  If someone thinks "death-panels" are going to be killing people, they are going to gravitate towards writing that confirms their suspicions, no matter how improbable a particular idea is.  Opinion-journalism is sadly the prevalent form of "news" (using that term very loosely) right now.  FOX and MSNBC lead the way in this trend.

About these supposed "death panels", what about a health-insurance company?  They decide what things will cover and pay for, and if it is too expensive for their profiteering they wont do it.  Their only motivation is to make money.  If you get sick with something that will cost them too many dollars to cover, their wish for you is: "Die quickly and cheaply."  I'd much rather have a watchdog on these predatory corporations, then to leave them to their own greedy devices.  They have to be profitable & viable of course, but they dont need to make billions and billions in profits every year. 

Thor, politifact seems to call-out politicians from left, right, or center, regardless of party, on their bull-crap statements.  How is this not non-partisan?  Is it because you may not like that some of the particular people you do believe in being exposed as liars?  I'm asking honestly, not facetiously.  There are liars on all sides of every issue.  That's how politics works, sadly.

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Political Issues/Comments / Re: election rehash........
« on: November 18, 2010, 12:22:59 PM »
Why is that particular number ironic?

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