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Current News & Events / Re: Charlotte McNall - Latest Burglary Victim
« on: December 10, 2008, 01:03:04 PM »
I'm sure there are multiple statutes that could apply.  Do you know of any specifically?    Are there any police officers who frequent this site who would care to comment?

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Current News & Events / Re: Fire Station
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:06:18 PM »
"Will teach respect for others property as obviously strict rules and accountability will be needed so the teens don't damage or cause problems with the facility."

While I think accountability does encourage responsibilty, I don't think it teaches respect.   I don't want to stereotype teenagers and infer that they will all damage things in the coarse of "just being kids", but the reality is that there WILL always be a few mischevious kids in a group.  They will go off and do their own thing when the rest are just trying to have good, clean fun.     

Many parents complain about their kids not cleaning up their rooms or anything else.  What would possess someone on the select board to think that teenagers would clean up after themselves and not leave the fire station meeting area a mess.

Who would be accountable?  Parents of teens after something is damaged??  How would that be enforced? 

Personally, I think if the Select board members think this is such a good and workable idea, each one of them should personally be overseeing the teens every night they get together.  By overseeing, i mean physically sitting in a chair at the entrance to the equipment area, AND cleaning the entire area when everyone has left.   Just so nothing happens when the select board member has to use the bathroom, there should be a minimum of 2 members there at all times that teens are present.

Unless each board member is willing to personally commit to this kind of "strict oversight", the idea of using a valuable public safety resource as a teen gathering center should be quickly thrown out.

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Current News & Events / Re: Charlotte McNall - Latest Burglary Victim
« on: December 10, 2008, 11:55:06 AM »
Good example Loctavious.  Unfortunately, there are WAY too many examples of people rightfully protecting their homes and families, and finding themselves in legal trouble because of it.   Ultimately, I think it depends on where you live.   IF you live in California, you're screwed because regardless of whether or not the State charges you with something, the criminal MIGHT win a civil case against you.    I would like to think in Vermont that MOST police and citizens would uphold a home owners rights (as long as you don't shoot someone in the back as they are running away).

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Current News & Events / Re: Charlotte McNall - Latest Burglary Victim
« on: December 10, 2008, 07:56:05 AM »
I agree whole heartedly with doing what is necessary to protect my family.  My home is insured against robbery by Mossberg, amung others.  In the post LOCT mentioned, he said the home owner shot AT the guy.  He didn't say he shot the intruder.  The LAST thing I would ever want to do is shot and kill someone.  Given the situation of an intruder in my home, visibly armed or not, I'd ask him to hold still at the end of a 12 ga. while calling the cops.   If the intruder ran instead of staying put when I told him to, I'd let him get out the door, then touch off a couple rounds into the ground outside just to give a little extra scare into him.   Then, maybe he'd think twice about ever entering another house uninvited.
"My home is my castle, and I shall defend it against all invaders".

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