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Title: Country Pantry
Post by: kpplus2 on July 05, 2015, 02:05:47 AM
Ran across this on craigslist   http://burlington.craigslist.org/bfs/5102525460.html (http://burlington.craigslist.org/bfs/5102525460.html)
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: mirjo on July 07, 2015, 08:33:26 PM
So all is not as well as it would appear...
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: kpplus2 on July 08, 2015, 04:16:15 PM
Not sure Mirjo just call it as I see it. . . . time will tell. . . .
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: wwiihistory on July 19, 2015, 03:45:29 PM
Change the restaurants name! It's cursed!
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: nancyd on July 22, 2015, 08:02:41 AM
Do you REALLY want this guy back in  town???  This venue is a valuable asset, but only valuable if it's backed by someone with moral integrity. I can eat my pancakes somewhere else.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: kpplus2 on July 22, 2015, 04:32:25 PM
Well nancyd here is how I look at it: Not everyone is perfect and when this was ran years ago I remember lines outside on Sunday mornings and the restaurant did well. I would rather see it get back on its feet producing jobs with folks earning money. The alternative is an empty business with grass growing around it and an eye sore to look at.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: lena6 on July 22, 2015, 05:58:35 PM
I agree.  We need a restaurant in town.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: Henry on July 23, 2015, 06:47:16 AM
I agree with Keith & Lena also.  I don't drive much any more & I love going out to breakfast.  Every summer I have friends drive up to visit me and just last week a couple called me and suggested we go out to lunch at The Country Pantry. I am sure there are a lot of people that plan on stopping in Fairfax on their way through, only to find there is not a sit down restaurant here in town.  Hopefully things will work out.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: RidgeRunner on July 23, 2015, 07:59:11 AM
I also think we need a restuarant in town.  I am not certain of all the ins and outs, who actually owns the place, their financial status and what not.  I would really like to see a nice restuarant in the building.  Given his history I think Sam is going to have a hard time making "the Country Pantry" work.  I completely understand that he has "paid his debt to society' but there is a sizable portion of the community who don't want to financially support him based on his past actions.  I myself would be reluctant to bring my family there.

If Sam's business plan is the same as his old plan I think he will also struggle as the food service industry has changed since he ran the place, more farm to table initiatives, etc...

I suspect that if he actually gets the doors open, he will stay open for a period of time and then end up closing again.  Which is sad for all parties involved and not what the town needs.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: nancyd on July 23, 2015, 02:08:52 PM
I totally agree with RidgeRunner. We do need a restaurant in town. All I am saying is that Sam is not the one to own it or run it.
A debt to society does not mean a successful rehabilitation. This is my only issue with it. And my concern would also be for a protective environment for workers there.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: Loctavious on July 24, 2015, 08:24:59 AM
The man's past aside ( by the way, with not knowing anything about where he is at in terms of rehabilitation, judgement is not ours to make either way.  We all answer to a higher power and it is that higher power who will ultimately reign justice and judgement.   That said - victims may forgive but they never forget -  nor is welcoming perpetrators in with open arms in any way realisitc or fair)
I wouldn't go so far as to say that this community is progressive in terms of patronizing a business becuase it doesn't follow a sustainable and green philosophy.  If your product is good, affordable, and people like it, customers will patronize you.  Personal opinion or approval would be the bigger issue for success I feel in this case.  Thus, if his business is to succeed, An open apology/sign of remorse and rehabilitation would go a long way.   with a Farmers market right next door, im sure working soem local produce in wouldn't hurt - unless its pricey.  I for one wouldn't mind not havign to travel 8-17 miles to The Mix, or 158 main, or Tim's place, or Our House to get breakfast.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: lena6 on July 24, 2015, 10:03:28 AM
If Sam does not get any kind of backer he will not open.  He needs money to fill propane tank and buy food.  I myself feel it will not open.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: mirjo on August 02, 2015, 11:49:57 PM
What a waste. If he can't reopen, then he should consider selling to someone who can. It's possible Jack Foley of 158 Main would be interested--he only left in the first place, because the rent was too high...
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: lena6 on August 03, 2015, 06:15:48 AM
Sam does not own it.  Our "friend" Gabe Handy still owns it.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: HayesFXFD17 on August 05, 2015, 06:34:30 AM
Unfortunately I don't think it comes down to who owns it or who wants to buy it as much at the "Country Pantry ship has sailed".  Time a new fresh beginning with a different name, theme or some sort of chain that can rejuvenate.  Trying to reincarnate the Country Pantry each time has failed numerous times for various reasons not just because of the "who owns it factor".  It definitely would be nice to though to have a local establishment to visit when we return to Fairfax to visit though.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: lena6 on August 05, 2015, 07:44:45 AM
I agree with Justine.  By the way, how are you guys?
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: mirjo on August 10, 2015, 11:07:10 PM
It didn't fail with the first restaurant-owner Jack Foley of 158 Main in Jeff-he stated that he left because the rent was too high during the off season and the landlord was unwilling to negotiate to keep him there. I didn't speak to him myself directly, but I know the person he said that to. What I do know is there have been about a half dozen other people in there since trying to make it happen and they all fold within a year or so--not because they aren't getting any business--because they always do, but because ?? (maybe the rent is too high??)

I'm sorry, but I see no need to hold that building hostage, when the residents want a restaurant and people have come here in good faith to provide one--repeatedly and it has been proven that a restaurant can succeed and be profitable there....so I wonder what the ulterior motive really is?? To let it repeatedly fail, then sit empty until it's an eyesore so it can be torn down for condos?

The rumor last winter was that Sam had "won" his building back in some suit and was going to reopen. I don't know where that all started, but it hasn't exactly happened...according to Lena, Gabe still owns it, so....??

We don't need any chains, that I can't agree with. There are far too many already.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: lena6 on August 11, 2015, 08:45:55 AM
Heard from a good source that Linda will be opening it.  Have never been to Linda's in St. Albans but have heard nothing but good things about it.  Jim and I put our heart and soul  in it when we built it.  I knew nothing about running a restaurant and then Sam dropped in.  It can be a successful restaurant if only Gabe would help.  I don't think Mr Handy gives2 ****s about our town.  All he sees are dollar signs.  And please do not say he is a business man.  My husband was one and he never put the screws to any one.  But then again, he is one of a kind.
Title: Re: Country Pantry
Post by: mirjo on August 16, 2015, 08:46:11 PM
I also heard that Linda (?) of Linda's in St. Albans will be opening it and this IS good news. She has good food, a good name, and people who travel to go to her place. Gabe unfortunately, has no interest in keeping a restaurant there--if he did, he would have kept Jack Foley instead of letting him leave and starting the the round robin succession that has followed. His only interest is in how much $$ he can line his own pockets with, not what the residents would like or benefit from. I know there are some who disagree with this view of Mr. Handy, but I see no other way to view it. He doesn't care about the town, because he doesn't live in it Though he did attempt some type of philanthropy with the rescue squad and the new building a few years ago--however, not sure that actually went according to his grand plan, though it did work out  fairly decently for rescue.